REMINDER: Anti-airplane noise ‘Quiet Skies Coalition’ first meeting is Tuesday

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quietskiescoalitionlogo_thumbREMINDER: The first Public Meeting for the ‘Quiet Skies Coalition’ – a group of Burien residents opposed to the recent increase in airplane noise – will be held this TUESDAY, Oct. 25 at Gregory Heights Elementary School.

This public, open meeting will start at 7 p.m., with doors opening at 6:45 p.m.

Gregory Heights Elementary School is located at 16201 16th Ave SW in Burien (map below).

The agenda for the meeting is as follows:

  • Update on recent events
  • Meet up with area residents / provide opportunity for coalition building
  • Share ideas about strategy to stop flights over greater Burien and hear your thoughts and questions
  • Solicit funds and volunteers

Here’s more from the organization:

With the help of the City of Burien, organizers say they requested a community meeting with the FAA and the Port for October 2016. However, the FAA and Port stated they are not available until sometime in November or December 2016. Rather than wait for November or December, this meeting on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 is sponsored by the Quiet Skies Coalition for the purposes described above.

We strongly encourage all of you to attend this meeting on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 and we look forward to seeing all of you at that time.

Update on Activities:

  • Quiet Skies Coalition was incorporated as a Washington non-profit corporation.
  • The mailing address of the Quiet Skies Coalition is as follows:

Quiet Skies Coalition
Box 238
Seahurst, Washington 98062

  • Our website is under development and is expected to launch by October 25, 2016.
  • The Coalition’s banking partner is Sound Credit Union, 14647 Ambaum Blvd SW, Burien, WA 98166. We have established checking and savings accounts.

The Coalition has elected an initial team of volunteer Officers and Directors:

  • Directors: Larry Cripe, John Parnass, Debi Wagner, Terrance Plumb and Paul Tonella.
  • Officers: Larry Cripe (President), John Parnass (Vice President), Debi Wagner (Treasurer) and Terrance Plumb (Secretary).

The Coalition has conducted a preliminary evaluation of legal options.

About Quiet Skies Coalition
The Quiet Skies Coalition is a Washington non-profit corporation composed of local citizens and businesses with the goal of stopping take-offs/ flights over the impacted area to the west of the airport (including Burien, Seahurst, Shorewood, Gregory Heights, Normandy Park and others). As most of you already know, starting in July 2016, the FAA started directing aircraft take-offs over this impacted area. The number and frequency has been a drastic change when compared to the historic norm. This brings sound disturbances to an area that had not previously experienced

Our mission is to restore the quiet skies over the impacted area. This can be done by the FAA discontinuing to route flights to the west as they depart Sea-Tac Airport, and reestablish the pattern that existed prior to July, 2016.The Quiet Skies Coalition proposes to do this through citizen action taking our demands directly to the parties involved: the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), Port of Seattle, and Alaska Airlines – using whatever means necessary.

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14 Responses to “REMINDER: Anti-airplane noise ‘Quiet Skies Coalition’ first meeting is Tuesday”
  1. Catherine says: there a map/outline of the boundaries for this?
    Thank you

  2. odubya23 says:

    Good luck fighting a non-elected federal body tasked with transportation safety. None of this “anti-airplane noise club” garbage made any sense to me, then I heard that they were taking money from the public. Then all the pieces fit. Fighting the hopeless fight because a bunch of Baby Boomers think that the noise lowers their property values was one thing, but taking a page out of the Donald Trump play book and nabbing a bunch of tax-free money you don’t have to pay back, that’s genius.

    • B says:

      It’s really that hard to understand “we don’t like the new flight plan the FAA secretly rolled out”?

      How about, “PLANES NOISY”?

      They also don’t get “tax free money”, as if they take donations that money was taxed already. They only said “non-profit”, not “tax exempt 501(c)” so it’s not clear what kind, but there are rules that apply either way. Unless they start buying pictures of themselves or paying off personal bills, they’re not really comparable to Trump.

      It’s fine if Trump wants to have a charity, it’s when he used it as his get-out-of-bills-free-with-other-peoples-money card that it became a problem.

      Finally, as a non-profit, if they start taking in any amount of real money (tens of thousands) they’ll need to submit to certain requirements relating to auditing.

      • odubya23 says:

        Well, usually when I complain about something happening that I don’t like in my community, I am reminded that I can move if I don’t like it. So I ask you: why don’t you vote with your feet and leave? You knew you were living near an international airport, did you seriously not consider that you might occasionally hear jet aeroplanes? The FAA commenter below laid out the incredible uphill battle you face, would it not be easier to just liquidate your real estate and bail?

        • Shari says:

          Pretty sure Millennials and Xers don’t have sole legal right to organize and mobilize and actually become civic activists. Also pretty sure that right is not withheld from folks in certain tax brackets or neighborhoods. I think in a democracy even Baby Boomers, including the affluent ones (for the record: not all of them are, my friend) get to have an opinion about changes they think are unfairly applied, or unhealthy, or even, yes, not in their own best economic interests.

        • BetterBurien says:

          Sometimes the easy solution isn’t the right one–and that’s taking into consideration that “easy” is a subjective term. Renters have leases to keep, homeowners have mortgages, kids are established at their schools, and decent jobs don’t grow on trees. Just up and leaving when the going gets tough isn’t a viable solution for many of us. I’m sure that ultimately, some of us will throw in the towel and move, but I don’t think it’s very kind to scoff at the people who want to stand up for their rights as residents and citizens of this town. It sucks when something comes along and lowers your quality of life without any acknowledgement, recompense, or approval. How close do you live to the flight paths? Do you have any idea how disruptive these new flight paths and added flights can be? My sleep is certainly disrupted. It sounds like the planes are landing on my house, countless times throughout the day. If it were a handful of flights a day, I wouldn’t particularly mind. Most of us have gotten used to a certain level of air traffic noise. But this is so far beyond the norm that it borders on absurd. E.g. Five back to back low-flying planes shaking my house at odd hours over a period of 1-2 minutes. The port package doesn’t do a whole lot to mitigate this level of noise, but I’ll take whatever help I can get–including what this coalition is trying to provide.

          • odubya23 says:

            I live right on Ambaum Blvd SW and I have seen the planes fly directly overhead. It’s loud, sure, but it doesn’t shake my apartment. I’m on the third floor, too. I think that you are either exaggerating, or your house was poorly constructed.

  3. sparkerward says:

    As a resident of Gregory Heights and Noise Officer at Boeing Field for 14 years (now retired), a conversation with Sea Tac’s Air Traffic Controllers would be helpful before raising funds, rallying troops, etc. FAA regulations require in excess of 500 SELs (single event level) noise incidents greater than 80 decibels (dB) each in a 24-hour period to qualify an area for 65 DNL (definition below) and any mitigation. FAA alone has sole authority over national air space and FAA’s highest priority is safety. Noise is considered an environmental issue; and only clear evidence of sleep disturbance and/or learning disruptions at schools in noise contours greater than 65 day-night-level (24 hour average of aircraft noise incidents of 500+ SELS/day with a 10 dB penalty during sleeping hours) would be considered evidence. Sea-Tac Airport has noise monitoring stations throughout the area (the closest one to be is located at Sylvester Elementary) and could provide exact noise measurements for these neighborhoods that are estimated to be in the 45-50 dB DNL. Sea Tac recently completed its Part 150 noise planning document and will not update it again until its expiration in 2018 (or in five years if there is a substantial increase in aircraft operations); and their current sound mitigation of local residences affected by the third runway has concluded.

    • sparkerward says:

      For the record, I was never an employee of the FAA, but I implemented FAA noise and flight standard regulations, investigated thousands of noise incident complaints, operated a flight tracking and noise monitoring system, and managed a $43 million sound insulation program that was under budget and several years early!

      • sparkerward says:

        If lawsuits are contemplated, please be advised of existing State and King County exemptions from noise regulations::

        1. The State of Washington’s WAC that exempts noise from aircraft and aircraft operations from noise regulations:

        • Sounds originating from aircraft in flight and sounds that originate at airports which are directly related to flight operations. Chapter 173-60-050 (3)(b) WAC):

        2. King County Ordinance 14114, Section 11, adopted September 12, 2001: “Sounds exempt at all times.

        • Sounds originating from aircraft in flight and sounds that originate at airports and are directly related to flight operations;”

  4. pat says:

    I may not know much but I know I appreciate and support every individual who stops complaining and takes positive appropriate action towards positive change.

  5. steve says:

    Just left the meeting…..packed house and our coalition leaders were awesome. They have a plan, they have a strategy and they are determined. Please continue to follow, join and donate. The FAA, Port of Seattle and Alaska Air Group cannot be allowed to fly over Burien….today its turbo props, tomorrow it will be like living under the runway.
    Thanks again to QSC founders.

  6. Eagle says:

    Hello — How can we follow along in the Quiet Skies Coalition’s efforts? Can you provide a link to any Facebook page, website, or contact information for us if available? Thank you for providing coverage of this. We recently moved into the Burien area and have also noticed the increase in air traffic which was very disappointing and does effect our quality of life. Thank you for the great blog and service you provide for Burien residents.

  7. johnt says:

    sign of the times I am afraid tell the dot to stop the traffic noise on 509 .tell the airport to stop plane noise . sorry its only going to get worse so live with it

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